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Understanding Immunization Signs That Protestors Carry

Apparently, protesting kids getting vaccinated and protected against life-threatening diseases is now a thing.

Does anyone really think that vaccines are only tested for 4.5 days before being approved by the FDA?
This is just anti-vaccine misinformation in sign form… Do they really think that vaccines are only tested for 4.5 days before being approved by the FDA? Or that kids get 72 vaccines?

Is it a new thing?

Understanding Immunization Signs That Protestors Carry

As anti-vaccine folks get kicked off of social media, they seem to be moving back into the “real world.”

It is important to understand that the signs are pure propaganda and the anti-immunization misinformation on the signs certainly isn’t new…

They all contain anti-vaccine talking points that are easily refuted.

Vaccine mandates don't force anyone to get vaccinated

Forced medicine?

As most of you understand, vaccine mandates don’t force anyone to get vaccinated. They are typically mandates to get vaccinated if you want your kids to attend daycare or school, etc.

Don't believe everything you read on a sign...
What about the choices of those who want to keep their kids safe from vaccine-preventable diseases?

Want your kids to opt out and not get vaccinated? Then in most cases you can keep them home.

Say no to forced vaccines! Except that no one is trying to force you to get vaccinated!!!
Say no to forced vaccines! Except that no one is trying to force you to get vaccinated!!!

You have a choice.

Many vaccines have been tested against placebos.

You would think they would at least try and get their propaganda straight.

9 doses? 24 doses? Which sign is true?
To get to the inflated counts, up to 72 doses, you have to count the DTaP, MMR, and Tdap vaccines as three separate doses. And if you are going to do that, you should always do it, not just NOW to scare folks to make it look like kids get a lot more vaccines than they used to.

One of their signs says kids got 9 doses in 1980 and another says 24. Which is it?

How many doses of vaccines did kids get in the 1960s and 1980s?

How many new vaccines are being developed and tested for release? It ain’t 271 or 300 or whatever number they make up.

This sign misrepresents a study about SIDS which actually “did not detect any concerning patterns that would suggest causal relationships between vaccination and deaths.”

It shouldn’t be a surprise that nothing on the anti-immunization signs you might see is true.

Do these folks have a right to protest?

Sure.

Just like you have a right to ignore them and get your kids vaccinated and protected.

The few folks who protest immunizations today are still dwarfed by all of the people who get vaccinated and protected. In 1962, the line for polio vaccines was so long, that it surrounded a city auditorium in San Antonio, Texas.
The few folks who protest immunizations today are still dwarfed by all of the people who get vaccinated and protected. In 1962, the line for polio vaccines was so long, that it surrounded a city auditorium in San Antonio, Texas. Photo courtesy CDC/ Mr. Stafford Smith.

Remember, vaccines are safe, with few risks, and they are obviously necessary.

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Why Are Vaccinated Australians Now Catching Measles?

Measles is on the rise in Australia, like many other places. But why are vaccinated Australians now catching measles?

More vaccinated Australians are catching measles because there is more measles in Australia.
More vaccinated Australians are catching measles because there is more measles in Australia.

And has this got folks thinking it is because the disease is evolving?

Why Are Vaccinated Australians Now Catching Measles?

Well, apparently it has some folks thinking that.

Remember, Andrew Wakefield has also been talking about mutant measles.

Is that what this story in Australia was about?

No.

“In recent years, 13 Victorians have been hospitalized with measles despite having one or two vaccinations that should have made them immune. Why? Well, experts believe that because measles is so rare in Australia, we pretty much never come into contact with it, so our immune systems are starting to let their guards down and wane a little bit.”

Nathan Templeton on Measles Immunity Concerns

What is he talking about?

It’s the idea of exogenous boosting from being around natural infections. In other words, after you become immune from being vaccinated, you could get a boost in your immune protection if you are around someone with the disease.

“The exogenous boosting (EB) hypothesis posits that cell-mediated immunity is boosted for individuals reexposed to varicella-zoster virus (VZV).”

Talbird et al on Understanding the role of exogenous boosting in modeling varicella vaccination.

While this is thought to happen with chickenpox, we aren’t sure if it happens with measles.

It might, but the “problem” is that it is known that folks can have an amnestic response, so can be immune even though they have low antibody levels.

Mostly though, it is important to keep in mind that most of the people who get measles are unvaccinated, often intentionally unvaccinated.

“The key to measles elimination is increasing vaccination coverage and monitoring of measles antibody status for all ages, as well as enhancing surveillance of both domestic and overseas incidences.”

Inaida et al on Measles elimination and immunisation: national surveillance trends in Japan, 2008-2015.

So how many vaccinated Australians are getting measles?

Overall, there are 154 cases of measles in Australia so far this year.

“In Australia, the majority of measles cases are due to unvaccinated individuals becoming infected while travelling to countries in which measles is either common or there are outbreaks occurring. As measles is highly contagious, these people can then spread the disease to others, causing outbreaks, often before they are aware that they have the virus.”

Australia’s Measles Outbreaks 2019

And just as in the United States and most other countries, most of their outbreaks are started by folks who are unvaccinated.

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Do Unvaccinated Kids Spread More Disease?

Is this really a question?

Unvaccinated kids do spread more disease than those who are vaccinated and protected.

The assertion, by Rita Palma, that the unvaccinated don’t spread disease any more than the vaccinated is simply absurd.

Do Unvaccinated Kids Spread More Disease?

Before we get to the studies, let’s just think about this for a second.

If you are vaccinated and aren’t getting sick, then how would you spread disease?

And if vaccinated folks spread so much disease, then how do we control and eliminate diseases when vaccination rates are high?

So yes, the consensus thinking would be, of course the unvaccinated spread disease more than the vaccinated!

And not surprisingly, the science confirms that idea:

It is clearly the unvaccinated who are at greater risk to get vaccine-preventable diseases.

And it is clearly the unvaccinated who start and keep most outbreaks going.

And when they spread disease, it is often to those who are most at risk, including those who are too young to be vaccinated or fully vaccinated, and those with true medical exemptions, including cancer and immune system problems.

What else is clear?

Misinformation about vaccines is what likely scares parents away from vaccinating and protecting their kids. Don’t listen to these folks anymore.

Vaccines are safe, with few risks, and are obviously necessary.

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About Those Binders of Anti-Vaccine Misinformation

Anti-vaccine folks don’t have to just turn to Facebook or the Sears Vaccine Book anymore – they are preparing their own binders of anti-vaccine misinformation.

There are a few versions of these binders of anti-vaccine misinformation going around.
There are a few versions of these binders of anti-vaccine misinformation going around.

How does that work?

Binders of Anti-Vaccine Misinformation

Apparently, they just collect and print all of the anti-vaccine articles from their typical copypasta arguments and load them all up into binders.

Including copyrighted material in your binders might make you want to stop selling them too...
Including copyrighted material in your binders might make you want to stop selling them too…

Here is one the entries from Ashley Everly‘s binder, from the section on “asymptomatic transmission and shedding:”

The rash started two days after his fever, too short a time for measles, and there wasn't even any documentation of prolonged fever.
The rash started two days after his fever, too short a time for measles, and there wasn’t even any documentation of prolonged fever.

Does it provide evidence for asymptomatic transmission or shedding of measles?

Nope.

The child had a rash after having his measles vaccine and had the flu. He likely didn’t have measles. Not even vaccine-associated measles.

Anyway, as is typical for these binders, they only use one example that might reinforce their argument, but leave out all of the ones that don’t.

“In the end we are left with a powerful sense of knowledge – false knowledge. Confirmation bias leads to a high level of confidence, we feel we are right in our gut. And when confronted with someone saying we are wrong, or promoting an alternate view, some people become hostile.

The Dunning-Kruger effect is not just a curiosity of psychology, it touches on a critical aspect of the default mode of human thought, and a major flaw in our thinking. It also applies to everyone – we are all at various places on that curve with respect to different areas of knowledge. You may be an expert in some things, and competent in others, but will also be toward the bottom of the curve in some areas of knowledge.”

Steven Novella on Lessons from Dunning-Kruger

These binders are just like their Facebook groups – echo chambers of anti-vaccine misinformation.

They won’t help you do research about vaccines and they certainly won’t help you win any debates or arguments with someone who truly knows something about vaccines.

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