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Is MRC-5 the Name of an Electively Aborted Baby Boy?

Why do anti-vax folks think that MRC-5 is the name of an electively aborted baby boy who is an ingredient in vaccines?

MRC-5 is the name of a cell line that is used to make some vaccines.
Since many think that we have a “moral obligation to protect the life and health” of our children and those around us, what does that make those folks who use propaganda to scare parents away from getting their kids vaccinated and protected.

Of course…

Is MRC-5 the Name of an Electively Aborted Baby Boy?

So what’s the real story?

MRC-5 is a line of human diploid cells that are used to make some vaccines.

“The second human cell line is MRC-5 (Medical Research Council 5) (human, lung, embryonic) (ATCC number CCL-171), with human lung fibroblasts coming from a 14 week male foetus aborted for “psychiatric reasons” from a 27 year old woman in the UK. MRC-5 was prepared and developed by J.P. Jacobs in 1966 (J.P. Jacobs et al, 1970).”

Vatican Statement on Vaccines Derived From Aborted Human Fetuses

And despite what the sign implies, vaccines do not contain aborted fetal tissue or fetal parts.

The original MRC-5 cells aren’t even involved in making vaccines anymore. The cells used today have been copied, over and over again.

They are descendant cells, which is why a common way to explain all of this is to say that vaccines are said to have a “distant association with abortion.”

“It should be obvious that vaccine use in these cases does not contribute directly to the practice of abortion since the reasons for having an abortion are not related to vaccine preparation.”

The Question of Parental Rights and Mandated Vaccinations

And even then, the cells are removed before the final vaccine is produced.

“Many Catholic experts concur that cooperation today is not really possible in an event that was over and done with many years ago. Because the abortion occurred long ago, and for reasons completely unrelated to vaccines, it is untenable to conclude that vaccine recipients today somehow cooperate in the original abortive event.”

The Morality of Vaccinating Our Children

So what about MRC-5 cells is keeping you from vaccinating and protecting your kids?

Vaccines are safe, with few risks, and are obviously necessary, preventing millions of deaths each year.

Don’t let someone holding an anti-vax sign to scare you away from making the right choice to vaccinate and protect your family.

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Can Vaccines Cause Diabetes?

Why do some people think that vaccines can cause diabetes?

Anti-vaccine folks commonly push the idea that vaccines cause diabetes.

The usual suspects…

Can Vaccines Cause Diabetes?

And diabetes is listed on the package insert for some vaccines!

An entry in a package insert is not evidence that vaccines are associated with diabetes.
An entry in a package insert is not evidence that vaccines are associated with diabetes.

But folks can be reassured that there are many studies that have concluded that vaccines are not associated with diabetes.

“Vaccines currently routinely recommended to the general population in the U.S.* do not cause diabetes.”

Do Vaccines Cause Diabetes?

Not only that, vaccines help protect kids with diabetes. Remember, kids with diabetes are at increased risk to get flu and pneumonia and other vaccine preventable diseases.

There’s more too.

“There was a 33% reduction in the risk of type 1 diabetes with completion of the rotavirus vaccine series compared to the unvaccinated… We conclude that rotavirus vaccination is associated with a reduced incidence of type 1 diabetes.”

Rogers et al on Lower Incidence Rate of Type 1 Diabetes after Receipt of the Rotavirus Vaccine in the United States, 2001–2017

Vaccines might even be protective against diabetes!

So why do some people think that vaccines can cause diabetes???

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Are the Measles Outbreaks in New York a Hoax?

Wait, why do some folks think that the measles outbreaks in New York are a hoax?

There were no confirmed cases in the measles outbreaks in New York, except the 654 measles cases that were confirmed… Some hoax!
There were no confirmed cases in the measles outbreaks in New York, except the 654 measles cases that were confirmed… Some hoax!

Oh, the usual suspects

Are the Measles Outbreaks in New York a Hoax?

Brooklyn, New York had 654 measles cases in the largest measles outbreak in 27 years.

There have been 312 confirmed cases in the measles outbreaks in Rockland, County, New York.

There have been an additional 312 confirmed, reported cases in Rockland County, New York, the longest measles outbreak since the endemic spread of measles was declared eliminated in 2000.

Were they a hoax?

“A total of 654 cases were confirmed, with rash onsets between September 30, 2018 and July 15, 2019. Serious complications included hospitalization (52), intensive unit care (19) and pneumonia (34). Multiple international importations of measles introduced into a community with prevalent delays in vaccination among young children propagated this outbreak.”

2019 Health Alert #26: Update on Measles Outbreak in New York City

Of course not!

The New York State Department of Health advises that on all suspected measles cases, “Viral specimens (nasopharyngeal swaband urine) and serology (IgM and IgG) should be obtained for diagnostic testing and confirmation.”

Were these cases all caused by vaccine strain measles, as Larry Palevesky suggests?

Of course not!

A vaccine strain has never before caused a measles outbreak. And NYC Health Commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot, in a press conference, stated that “Yeah, it’s, you can’t get the measles from the vaccine.”

Although anti-vax folks often focus on the measles strain when there is an outbreak, all it really helps you do is figure out where the imported cases came from.

Even though health officials didn’t tell us the specific strains involved in the outbreaks, guess what, they did tell us the sources of the outbreak, so it is basically the same thing.

The cases were imported from Israel, UK, and Ukraine.

And the CDC has told us that “All measles cases this year have been caused by measles wild-type D8 or B3.”

“We have to stop blaming, accusing, targeting, ostracizing, condemning unvaccinated children as a health risk, which would then make this subject completely moot.”

Larry Palevsky

What else do we know about the measles outbreak in Brooklyn?

  • it began in October 2018 “with an unvaccinated child from Brooklyn who acquired measles in Israel”
  • it included 15 neighborhoods in Brooklyn, with most concentrated in Williamsburg, Borough Park, and Sunset Park
  • the majority of cases were in children, including at least 91 cases in infants less than 12 months old
  • the great majority of cases were unvaccinated, with only 27 cases fully vaccinated with two doses of MMR
  • there were 52 hospitalizations, including 16 ICU admissions

And the outbreak cost over $6 million to control!

The Rockland County measles outbreak ended in late September and is also said to have cost over $6 million to control.

At a gathering for the New York Alliance for Vaccine Rights and First Freedoms Community, these folks, including Larry Palevsky (left) are discussing the "alleged" measles outbreaks that New York spent $6 million and 500 staff to contain.
At a gathering for the New York Alliance for Vaccine Rights and First Freedoms Community, these folks, including Larry Palevsky (left) are discussing the “alleged” measles outbreaks that New York spent $6 million and 500 staff to contain.

So why do they think they are a hoax?

“There were over 800 kids who the New York State and New York City Department of Health have said were confirmed cases of measles. The real question is, were these really confirmed as per the CDC recommendations. We do not have that data. In fact, anecdotally, New York State told the physicians not to do the tests.”

Larry Palevsky

Is this about the strains again? Is this about the fact that once you know you are in the middle of a huge measles outbreak, you might be able to start diagnosing kids clinically?

“New York State lied when they said that there were confirmed cases. We don’t know what kind of illnesses the kids had. And there’s a set of papers in the literature that specifically state that if the children are found by analysis to have a measles virus infection that is consistent with a side effect of the vaccine, it is important for the Department of Health to alert the public that it was a vaccine strain that caused the outbreak, because a vaccine strain illness should not be equated with a public health emergency. [Applause]”

Larry Palevsky

Yes, it is about the strains…

“So the reality is that when there is a vaccine strain measles outbreak, meaning that the vaccine itself was not properly attenuated, meaning it was more active and virulent than just simply giving an antibody response in the body, when that occurs an outbreak is almost always very very close to the vest, meaning that would explain why it was only seen in two communities out of 62. And if New York state had done the proper testing of the vaccine to see if it was too virulent and of the children who had the measles infection to see what type of measles virus they had, then in all likelihood this was a vaccine strain measles infection which is known to be a side effect of the vaccine and not a public health emergency.”

Larry Palevsky

Is any of that true?

Since we have never had an outbreak of measles from an MMR vaccine that wasn’t properly attenuated, I’m guessing no, it isn’t. Also remember that to control the outbreak, they gave lots and lots of MMR vaccine to unvaccinated folks in those communities…

What about his explanation for why we only saw outbreaks in Brooklyn and Rockland Counties? Well, for one thing, we didn’t. Other areas of New York and of course, around the country have seen a rise in measles. And the outbreaks in Brooklyn and Rockland Counties were caused when unvaccinated folks traveled to Israel, UK, and Ukraine and returned to an area with low immunization rates. They weren’t caused by a bad batch or mutant strains of measles in the MMR vaccine.

“So the New York State Department of Health failed to do their job and instead they lied and said the cases were confirmed and they didn’t do their due diligence to actually evaluate all the possible reasons that an outbreak could have occurred. It’s very strange that two communities where there are lots of people moving through those communities that are non-Jewish, that are outside of the state that are coming through and why just those communities got the illness. That should have raised the red flag that something else was going on and your state failed us.”

Is it possible that those other people moving in and out of those communities in Brooklyn and Rockland County were vaccinated and protected against measles?!?

One thing should be very clear.

Brooklyn may have stopped their measles outbreak, but New York still has a public health emergency on their hands.

Well, not just New York. We need to stop this kind of propaganda if we want to keep parents from being scared to immunize and protect their kids.

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Understanding Immunization Signs That Protestors Carry

Apparently, protesting kids getting vaccinated and protected against life-threatening diseases is now a thing.

Does anyone really think that vaccines are only tested for 4.5 days before being approved by the FDA?
This is just anti-vaccine misinformation in sign form… Do they really think that vaccines are only tested for 4.5 days before being approved by the FDA? Or that kids get 72 vaccines?

Is it a new thing?

Understanding Immunization Signs That Protestors Carry

As anti-vaccine folks get kicked off of social media, they seem to be moving back into the “real world.”

It is important to understand that the signs are pure propaganda and the anti-immunization misinformation on the signs certainly isn’t new…

They all contain anti-vaccine talking points that are easily refuted.

Vaccine mandates don't force anyone to get vaccinated

Forced medicine?

As most of you understand, vaccine mandates don’t force anyone to get vaccinated. They are typically mandates to get vaccinated if you want your kids to attend daycare or school, etc.

Don't believe everything you read on a sign...
What about the choices of those who want to keep their kids safe from vaccine-preventable diseases?

Want your kids to opt out and not get vaccinated? Then in most cases you can keep them home.

Say no to forced vaccines! Except that no one is trying to force you to get vaccinated!!!
Say no to forced vaccines! Except that no one is trying to force you to get vaccinated!!!

You have a choice.

Many vaccines have been tested against placebos.

You would think they would at least try and get their propaganda straight.

9 doses? 24 doses? Which sign is true?
To get to the inflated counts, up to 72 doses, you have to count the DTaP, MMR, and Tdap vaccines as three separate doses. And if you are going to do that, you should always do it, not just NOW to scare folks to make it look like kids get a lot more vaccines than they used to.

One of their signs says kids got 9 doses in 1980 and another says 24. Which is it?

How many doses of vaccines did kids get in the 1960s and 1980s?

How many new vaccines are being developed and tested for release? It ain’t 271 or 300 or whatever number they make up.

This sign misrepresents a study about SIDS which actually “did not detect any concerning patterns that would suggest causal relationships between vaccination and deaths.”

It shouldn’t be a surprise that nothing on the anti-immunization signs you might see is true.

Do these folks have a right to protest?

Sure.

Just like you have a right to ignore them and get your kids vaccinated and protected.

The few folks who protest immunizations today are still dwarfed by all of the people who get vaccinated and protected. In 1962, the line for polio vaccines was so long, that it surrounded a city auditorium in San Antonio, Texas.
The few folks who protest immunizations today are still dwarfed by all of the people who get vaccinated and protected. In 1962, the line for polio vaccines was so long, that it surrounded a city auditorium in San Antonio, Texas. Photo courtesy CDC/ Mr. Stafford Smith.

Remember, vaccines are safe, with few risks, and they are obviously necessary.

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