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About That Johns Hopkins Protocol of Immunocompromised Kids…

We know that immunocompromised kids are especially at risk from vaccine preventable diseases, both because they are immunocompromised and because they often can’t get vaccinated or fully vaccinated.

That why herd immunity is important and there are immunization protocols for immunocompromised kids.

About That Johns Hopkins Protocol of Immunocompromised Kids…

One of the most commonly followed protocols, 2013 IDSA Clinical Practice Guideline for Vaccination of the Immunocompromised Host, was recently published by the Infectious Diseases Society of America.

“Healthy immunocompetent individuals who live in a household with immunocompromised patients should receive the following live vaccines based on the CDC annual schedule: combined measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccines; rotavirus vaccine in infants aged 2–7 months; varicella vaccine (VAR); and zoster vaccine (ZOS). Also, these individuals can safely receive the following vaccines for travel: yellow fever vaccine and oral typhoid vaccine.”

2013 IDSA Clinical Practice Guideline for Vaccination of the Immunocompromised Host

There are also guidelines from the Medical Advisory Committee of the Immune Deficiency Foundation, the ACIP, and the American Academy of Pediatrics.

All of the protocols support kids getting vaccinated and protected, unless they have a medical exemption, and that their contacts get vaccinated and protected.

Is it any wonder that some parents are scared to vaccinate their kids after listening to these folks speak at these rallies?

That’s why it is surprising to hear what Robert F. Kennedy, Jr had to say about the protocol he reviewed from Johns Hopkins.

“So I went to the Johns Hopkins protocols for immunocompromised children. And I read it. And when I read it, it’s a long, dense document, but there’s no place in that entire document that said immunocompromised children should be kept away from unvaccinated children. Do you know what there is? Ah! It says that the real danger to immunocompromised children is vaccinated children, because, whatever you do, don’t let your immunocompromised child near a child who has recently, meaning six weeks, had a chickenpox vaccine. Don’t let your child anywhere near a child who has had a polio vaccine. Or a pertussis vaccine. And that’s the worst one. Because the child with pertussis has no knowledge that he has pertussis. He is an asymptomatic carrier. But he can pass it to your child. And he is more likely to pass it to your child if he is vaccinated!”

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr

Where is this Johns Hopkins protocol that Kennedy read?

Johns Hopkins Medicine, which includes the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and the The Johns Hopkins Hospital and Health System went out of their way to correct this anti-vaccine misinformation.
Johns Hopkins Medicine, which includes the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and the The Johns Hopkins Hospital and Health System went out of their way to correct this anti-vaccine misinformation.

He can’t be referring to the old version of the Johns Hopkins Hospital Patient Information Guide for the Immunocompromised Patient, can he? The revised Johns Hopkins Hospital Patient Information Guide no longer routinely warns about contact with children who were recently vaccinated.

Although anyone with a severe immunodeficiency should avoid those who have recently received the oral polio vaccine, that vaccine hasn’t been used in the United States since 2000. Also, you don’t have to avoid folks who have received the chickenpox vaccine, unless they get a rash and it is uncovered. And you certainly don’t have to avoid anyone who has received the pertussis vaccine, as it is not a live vaccine.

The Johns Hopkins Hospital Patient Information Guide does warn those who are immunocompromised to “Tell friends and family who are sick not to visit.”

Who’s more likely to get sick with things like measles, chickenpox, and pertussis?

Folks who are unvaccinated!

“The threat of pertussis and other childhood communicable diseases to children with immunodeficiency is particularly alarming. The increased risk of disease in the pediatric population, in part because of increasing rates of vaccine refusal and in some circumstances more rapid loss of immunity, increases potential exposure of immunodeficient children. The immunosuppressed subject is particularly at risk in crowded living conditions because of the spread of these diseases by aerosol droplets or through the oral-fecal route.”

Medical Advisory Committee of the Immune Deficiency Foundation on Recommendations for live viral and bacterial vaccines in immunodeficient patients and their close contacts

Has Kennedy read the protocols from the Immune Deficiency Foundation? They do warn of the risk from intentionally unvaccinated kids!

Has he read the Johns Hopkins Hospital Patient Information Guide, which was updated at least two years ago?

Have you, especially if you are thinking about skipping or delaying your child’s vaccines?

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V is for Vaccine

The California Assembly Appropriations Committee votes Friday on SB276. Today anti-vaccine folks in Californians who oppose this bill gathered at the state capitol encouraging legislators to continue to allow doctors to write fake medical exemptions.

There was plenty of violent imagery on display at the V for Vaccine rally. How many times did RFK, Jr mention guns and homicide?

In addition to the anti-vaccine propaganda signs that we are getting used to seeing, folks got to hear from the usual suspects.

V is for Vaccine Rally

Surprisingly, Robert F Kennedy, Jr started things off.

Why is that a surprise?

Well, he’s not from California…

He does do a good job of pushing anti-vaccine misinformation.

And it’s all stuff we have heard before.

But he added some new stuff that was suprising.

“They are saying that… any child who is unvaccinated has ever passed measles to another child in a school since 1963. No evidence.”

Robert Kennedy, JR

What?

Although the first measles vaccine was introduced in 1963, it took some time before measles was brought under control and the endemic spread finally eliminated in the United States (2000).

Who was his pediatrician?

No evidence indeed!

He goes on about the MMR being a failed vaccine and that no one should be worried about the unvaccinated if they are vaccinated and protected.

Kennedy even claimed that he read a protocol from Johns Hopkins and not only does it not say anything about immunocompromised people staying away from the unvaccinated, but he says it warns about shedding from the recently vaccinated!

“The increased risk of disease in the pediatric population, in part because of increasing rates of vaccine refusal and in some circumstances more rapid loss of immunity, increases potential exposure of immunodeficient children. The immunosuppressed subject is particularly at risk in crowded living conditions because of the spread of these diseases by aerosol droplets or through the oral-fecal route.”

Medical Advisory Committee of the Immune Deficiency Foundation. Recommendations for live viral and bacterial vaccines in immunodeficient patients and their close contacts

I don’t know what protocol from Johns Hopkins he might have read, but maybe he should have read the Medical Advisory Committee of the Immune Deficiency Foundation. Recommendations for live viral and bacterial vaccines in immunodeficient patients and their close contacts. It clearly warns about the risks of being around someone who is unvaccinated.

Next up was Joshua Coleman.

“These are all undisputed facts. Everyone should know these things.”

Joshua Coleman

Coleman is talking about the “facts” on his anti-vaccine propaganda signs.

He basically hit every anti-vaccine talking point that there is…

We also heard about hot lots and Vaccine Court compensation claims.

“Cesar Chavez did this. We are the new Cesar Chavez generation.”

Latinos for Medical Freedom

Cesar Chavez did not work to put kids at risk for life-threatening vaccine preventable diseases!

Who did the V is for Vaccine Rally end with?

Del Bigtree.

Is he anti-vaccine?

He says that he is against forced vaccination, which makes you wonder why he is there, as there is no forced vaccination in the United States.

He also says that he has debunked the idea of herd immunity!

“Gavin Newsom if you can hear me, please, please ask yourself, what is the need for this law?”

Del Bigtree

What’s the need for SB276?

How about all of the abuse of medical exemptions that has led to clusters of unvaccinated kids in California schools?

To be very clear – SB276 doesn’t eliminate medical exemptions.

It stops doctors from writing inappropriate medical exemptions.

“My concern with this bill, is that it’s going to take every exemption I’ve ever done under those guidelines, which are not restricted to CDC contraindications – under those old guidelines, they can now review every single one of my exemptions I’ve done and disqualify each and every one of them and kick those kids out of school. They are sort of retroactively changing the guidelines – so all of the exemptions that I’ve ever done, and other physicians have ever done, and to me that’s a very very concerning precedence for a government to go back like that and negate years of medical care that’s been done legally and properly under the guidelines of 277.”

Bob Sears SB 276 Assembly Health Committee Testimony

SB276 is needed because too many doctors took advantage of SB277.

And because too many parents are scared to vaccinate their kids because they listen to folks like Del talk about mercury in vaccines, VAERS, 400 deaths a year from vaccines, vaccinated vs unvaccinated studies, placebo studies, infant mortality rates, and the rise in childhood illness because our kids get 72 vaccines.

“What else needs to be said?”

Del Bigtree

It should be clear what else needs to be said…

The Catholic Church teaches that it is lawful to get vaccinated to protect "our children, public health, and the common good."
The Catholic Church teaches that it is lawful to get vaccinated to protect “our children, public health, and the common good” and that we have a “moral obligation to protect the life and health of their children and those around them.”

Stop listening to these folks and their misinformation.

Anti-vax folks will never win if they try to talk about science, but they will lose even faster if they use people to push their agenda.
Anti-vax folks will never win if they try to talk about science, but they will lose even faster if they use people to push their agenda.

Vaccines are safe, with few risks, and they are obviously necessary.

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More Misinformation on Vaccine Shedding

Do you know why folks still think that vaccine shedding is a problem?

Misinformation on vaccine shedding keeps spreading on Facebook.

Yup. Folks keep posting and sharing misinformation about vaccine shedding!

More Misinformation on Vaccine Shedding

Are these real signs that are warning people about shedding?

Maybe, but that doesn’t mean that they are accurate.

Smallpox Warning Sign
You actually aren’t supposed to swim after getting the smallpox vaccine, but just until the vaccination site has healed, in 3 to 4 weeks.
Outdated Information
Outdated Information
John's Hopkins Patient Visitor Guide
The updated patient visitor guide from John’s Hopkins.
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The latest Patient Visitor Guidelines from St Jude
The latest Patient Visitor Guidelines from St Jude
Do Not Visit
Not visiting within 30 days of a live vaccine is not part of any guideline.
Chickenpox Vaccine Shedding Sign
Unless you have a rash, you can not give your child chickenpox after getting vaccinated.

Are some places overly cautious or just not up-to-date on the current guidelines on vaccine safety?

If you read the latest guidelines it is clear. Vaccine shedding is rarely a problem when visiting most people in the hospital.

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Anti-Vaccine Folks Are Abusing Press Release Distribution Networks

I’m sure you know that anti-vaccine folks push misinformation that scares parents away from vaccinating and protecting their kids.

You may not be aware of one of their techniques.

There was no real mainstream news coverage of the Highwire crew.

Yes, they issue bogus press releases and then make folks think that mainstream news sites are doing feature stories about them, when in reality, these mainstream news sites simply republish every press release they get.

“PR Newswire’s network reaches more than 4,500 U.S. websites, including popular sites such as Yahoo! Finance, MarketWatch and Business Journals. Our global network reaches nearly 10,000 websites, portals and databases.”

About PR Newswire

Did you really think that Yahoo! Finance covered a story about an FDA coverup over licensing of the MMR vaccine?

They didn’t. There was no FDA coverup.

In fact, instead of a story by Yahoo! Finance, folks are simply reading a press release that was actually written by the Highwire crew.

Did you fall for this propaganda trick?

If so, then you didn’t learn your lesson when the Weston A Price Foundation got their anti-vaccine press release about shedding published on CNBC way back in 2015.

Have you seen anyone sharing these press releases? Have you seen them reprinted on “mainstream” news sites?

Tell them to stop spreading anti-vaccine propaganda.

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