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Are Vaccines the Number One Cause of Chronic Disease in America?

Why do some people think that vaccines are the number one cause of chronic disease in America?

What would Steve 'nobody should be vaccinated ever' do if he was bitten by a rabid dog? Would he still say no to vaccines?
What would Steve ‘nobody should be vaccinated ever’ Kirsch do if he was bitten by a rabid dog? Would he still say no to vaccines?

The usual suspects?

Are Vaccines the Number One Cause of Chronic Disease in America?

Steve Kirsch certainly seems to think so.

Like his vaccinated vs unvaccinated survey, twitter polls are not good evidence that vaccines cause chronic health conditions.
We are now pushing Twitter polls as scientific evidence?

And so do his followers!

At least Kirsch could introduce less bias when he asks his survey questions. The simple fact that he uses leading words 'injured' and 'shedding' introduces bias into his vaccinated vs unvaccinated survey.
At least Kirsch could introduce less bias when he asks his survey questions. The simple fact that he uses leading words ‘injured’ and ‘shedding’ introduces bias into his vaccinated vs unvaccinated survey.

Of course, he also did a survey of his readers.

“And vaccines are also the #1 cause of sexual orientation issues.”

New survey confirms that vaccines are, by far, the #1 cause of chronic disease in America

So what should you make of these polls and surveys?

It's official folks. The earth must be flat. This survey says so!
It’s official folks. The earth must be flat. This survey says so!

If you have been paying attention, you already know what to make of these kinds of polls and surveys…

That’s right.

Asking the followers of someone who pushes anti-vaccine information if they think vaccines are bad is like going into a flat earth group and asking if the earth is flat!

If I do a survey on cats vs dogs as the better pet, are my results going to be the same if I ask in a cat group vs a dog group?
If I do a survey on cats vs dogs as the better pet, are my results going to be the same if I ask in a cat group vs a dog group?

You understand how sampling or ascertainment bias can easily mess up the results of a survey and that’s why you ignore these types of surveys.

Vaccinated vs Unvaccinated Studies

And the peer review literature that backs up his survey results?

They aren’t any of the vaccinated vs unvaccinated studies I have talked about before…

“My results were consistent with numbers published in the peer-reviewed literature. There is a tab on the spreadsheet for you to verify for yourself. So you can gaslight me all you want, but you need to explain why the numbers were so consistent if my survey was not “scientific” or was biased.”

New survey confirms that vaccines are, by far, the #1 cause of chronic disease in America

Steve Kirsch is basically referencing The Control Group Pilot Survey of Unvaccinated Americans.

“Because the subpopulation of the entirely unvaccinated individuals in the US is such a small minority, to encourage participation, survey notices were posted on social media outlets, podcasts, and radio broadcasts across the nation, and even in foreign countries. Also, in-person surveys were conducted in key population centers. On the whole, these methods produced a robust and representative sample of the population of interest.”

Health versus Disorder, Disease, and Death:Unvaccinated Persons Are Incommensurably Healthier than Vaccinated

Yes, survey of a population of interest. Folks who are unvaccinated because they have likely skipped or delayed getting themselves and their kids vaccinated because of all of the misinformation about vaccines they heard in the anti-vaccine social media outlets, podcasts, and radio broadcasts they were listening too.

“Right there, the sample is biased beyond hope. Who saw this recruiting pitch? Antivaxxers who frequent antivaccine Facebook pages, other social media, and websites, that’s who. That’s a sample of people who will, by their very antivaccine nature, be biased in the direction of thinking that vaccines cause chronic health problems.”

“The Control Group”: A litigation-driven antivaccine survey of the “unvaccinated”

Who else does Kirsch reference?

Ben Tapper thinks vaccines cause gender dysphoria.
Ben Tapper thinks vaccines cause gender dysphoria?

If you think he was getting to the bottom of the barrel by referencing Ben Tapper, Kirsch went a little further down and dug up the vaccinated vs unvaccinated study from Paul Thomas. He’s the guy that told parents they didn’t need to be afraid of COVID because only ‘one in a billion children’ were dying of COVID.

“They published a crappy study based on a metric they made up that hasn’t been validated elsewhere and use that to claim that “vaxxed” children are much less healthy than “unvaxxed” children, when in fact the data we have suggest emphatically that the opposite is true.”

Even COVID-19 can’t stop antivaxxers from publishing crappy “vaxxed/unvaxxed” studies

What did his study show? That unvaccinated kids in his office suffered from more vaccine-preventable diseases than those who were vaccinated!

“Every single study comparing fully vaccinated vs. unvaccinated shows the unvaccinated are healthier. So even if my survey is “biased” it is clearly directionally correct. Society has a tough time dealing with the truth. That’s the fundamental problem.”

New survey confirms that vaccines are, by far, the #1 cause of chronic disease in America

Has Steve Kirsch heard about the “Vaccination Status and Health in Children and Adolescents Findings of the German Health Interview and Examination Survey for Children and Adolescents (KiGGS),” a vaccinated vs unvaccinated study which looked at “whether unvaccinated children and adolescents differ from those vaccinated in terms of health?” It didn’t find that unvaccinated kids were healthier than vaccinated kids, only that they suffered from more vaccine preventable diseases.

That time Bob Sears told the truth about the dangers of skipping or delaying the MMR vaccine.
Remember that time Bob Sears told the truth about the dangers of skipping or delaying the MMR vaccine?

And while Kirsch and Tenpenny might think everyone can simply stop getting vaccinated and nothing will happen, we know what happens when immunization rates drop.

We see outbreaks. People suffer. And then immunization rates finally increase again.

Let’s stop that cycle and get everyone vaccinated and protected and prevent those outbreaks from happening.

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Last Updated on April 5, 2024

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